[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4752: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4754: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4755: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4756: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
• View topic - KAMIKAZE

KAMIKAZE

A place for Sladists to share their thoughts on Michael Slade and his work...

Postby TBLightning492 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:43 am

User avatar
TBLightning492
 
Posts: 87
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:56 am
Location: Swanton, Ohio

Postby Slade » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:17 am

TB,

Whoa, there, Pilgrim. Don't be so quick on the draw. While screening Bunker Hill (CV-17) on the morning of the 11th, Ault splashed one kamikaze, but two others hit the carrier. After rescuing 29 men from the stricken ship, the destroyer escorted her to the replenishment group and rejoined the action on the 13th. During attacks on 13 and 14- May, she succeeded in splashing three more planes. "Though it pales in comparison, I imagine some of what I was feeling while reading that is what you felt while connecting the dots of your father's experiences during WWII."

Bunker Hill is big, big stuff:

http://www.odyssey.dircon.co.uk/BunkerHill-1.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/17.htm

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-u ... b/cv17.htm

http://www.microworks.net/pacific/picto ... amaged.htm

And this:

http://www.geocities.jp/kamikazes_site_e/ogawa_syoi.htm

Slade
User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby MarylandManson » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:01 am

Slade and TB,

Aircraft carriers were the juicy targets, but by the numbers, destroyers and destroyer escorts received far more kamikaze hits than other vessel types, owing to their roles as "radar picket" ships. In other words, they were the first targets of opportunity as the kamikazes approached. Also, in the heat of battle, smaller ships were often mistakenly identified by pilots on both sides of the war as bigger ships. Finally, there were just so dadblamed many of these ships swarming around. Here's a comparative tally, from U.S. Navy records, of U.S. carriers and destroyers/escorts sunk or put out of service by kamikazes:

Fleet carrier: 1 severely damaged (Bunker Hill)
Escort carriers: 3 sunk (St. Lo, Ommaney Bay, Bismarck Sea), 1 severely damaged (Sangamon)
Destroyers/escorts: 20 sunk, 28 severely damaged or beyond repair

So, TB, your grandfather really was in the hot seat on a tin can. Although anyone in the kamikaze "radius" really was in the hot seat with him. Note that the above numbers paint the overall strategic picture. However, hundreds of ships were hit and thousands of men died or were wounded, even if the ships themselves more often remained in action. Tough duty any way you slice it.

MM
User avatar
MarylandManson
co-administrator
 
Posts: 583
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:10 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Postby TBLightning492 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:50 pm

Slade,

I worded that poorly. When I said that it "pales in comparison", I was referring to the fact that you were discovering the life of a man you didn't get to know all that well before he died - I am very lucky in that my grandfather is still alive, and I grew up knowing him quite well (though apparently not as well as I would have liked). I was going by the description of Dane Winter's discovery of the past...something which you've said was pretty much an accurate account of what you experienced. My shock at the events of the Pacific, and knowing my grandfather was in the middle of that, wasn't quite as shocking (the man has more lives than a cat, if my grandmother is to be believed). Still, I never knew that the battle was quite like that.

On Memorial Day I thought about giving him a call, just to see how he was doing and to thank him for his service (Memorial Day is just as good a time as Veteran's Day, n'est pas?). I ended up getting busy with work and forgot to pick up the phone. After seeing those photographs of the Bunker Hill, I really wish I would have. I understand now why he was always reluctant to discuss the details of his tour of duty.

Thank you, Slade and MM, for filling in some of the blanks of my grandfather's life.
User avatar
TBLightning492
 
Posts: 87
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:56 am
Location: Swanton, Ohio

Postby Slade » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:11 pm

TB,

The point I was making - by playing off "pales in comparison" - was that your granddad was in one hell of a battle:

25Mar45-21Jun45. Off Okinawa -- Ten "Kikusui", swarms of Kamikaze, up to 350 attackers at a time, 1,900 in total, damaged 250 ships with 34 destroyers and smaller ships sunk. Several ships were damaged so badly they were not repaired. One in seven of all naval casualities occurred off Okinawa.

The Bunker Hill attack was Kikusui Number 6. As you'll see from this article:

http://www.wtj.com/articles/kamikaze/

The climax occurred with Operation Kikusui Number Six, when on May 11 the large carrier flagship USS Bunker Hill was struck by a Thunder God from the Kemmu Squadron.

And you'll find this of interest:

http://www.ascfusa.org/index.php?option ... &Itemid=73

Slade
User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby Slade » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:12 pm

"What fresh hell is this?"

TORONTO, Ontario (CNN) -- Canadian police on Saturday said they have prevented a major al Qaeda-inspired terror plot to attack targets in southern Ontario.

Twelve adults and five young people were arrested, authorities said.

"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said Royal Canadian Mounted Police Assistant Commissioner Mike McDonell.

"To put this in context, the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 people took one ton of ammonium nitrate."
User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby MarylandManson » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:08 pm

User avatar
MarylandManson
co-administrator
 
Posts: 583
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:10 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Postby Slade » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:41 pm

User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby Cawdorgraves » Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:10 am

------------------------------------------
D E F O R M A T O R Y
------------------------------------------
In The Wake Of Pestilence
https://deformatory.bigcartel.com
------------------------------------------
User avatar
Cawdorgraves
 
Posts: 244
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:57 am
Location: Ottawa, ON

Postby Slade » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:44 am

User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby Cawdorgraves » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:29 pm

------------------------------------------
D E F O R M A T O R Y
------------------------------------------
In The Wake Of Pestilence
https://deformatory.bigcartel.com
------------------------------------------
User avatar
Cawdorgraves
 
Posts: 244
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:57 am
Location: Ottawa, ON

Postby Slade » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:29 am

User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby raasnio » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:08 pm

User avatar
raasnio
techno-guru / co-administrator
 
Posts: 887
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:24 am
Location: KC, MO

Postby Slade » Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:30 pm

User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

Postby Slade » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:06 pm

User avatar
Slade
 
Posts: 3073
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:42 am

PreviousNext

Return to Sladists Welcome!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron