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Postby marcd » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:57 pm

Just finished it. WOW! Need I say more. Rook is loads of fun. Look forward to seeing him again.
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Postby Judy » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:38 am

Real scary is the thought that those implements were ACTUALLY used on human beings . . . . the Inquisition was truly one of humanities low points . . . . :shock: :roll: !!!!!!
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Postby SickThing » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:23 pm

Agreed. A couple of the Legionary's Inquisition devices I hadn't heard of before.... Yikes.
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Postby steelclaw32 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:13 pm

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Postby Hydebound » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:45 pm

Preach it, Brother Steelclaw. I spent a great many years oppressed by evangelical christianity (note small c), but thank God (no irony intended) I am free. May all dogmatic religions vanish from the face of the earth (rapture indeed) and allow the rest of us the chance to have an actual civilization. Amen.
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Postby steelclaw32 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:45 am

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Postby steelclaw32 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:42 pm

Many thanks for that interesting and more than informative piece there PohlSE, again my thanks to you.

It's really sickening that His message and the basic message as in The New Testament, has been (please excuse this vulgarity bit here) buggered
and a whole "new religion" has sprung from something that isn't EVEN in The Bible; I also noted in my posting of Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:13 am, I used the the main Anglican Church in England initials CoE Church Of England just thought I clear it up what none Brits might find confusing.

You know isn't it great that a man such a Jay (Slade to us lot of heathens),
can write a truly remarkable book and write (whether he was aware of it or not), with sensitivity on not one of the then Roman 'Catholic' Church's finest of hours,? THAT can't have been easy at all; and we responded as of this latter posting will attest, in not quite the way Jay could have thought imaginable.

In a sense, I'm responsible for that I suppose see my posting to
Judy, SickThing, of Thu Aug 14, 2008.

But it had to be said and told.

The then Roman Church brought about one of the most invidious quite positively the most ANTI Christen abominations ever in Christen history,
and it makes one wonder if Christ Himself had say, (done a dry run, for His Second Coming) would had He yet again been so horribly killed that it made His last outing like afternoon tea with his auntie Ethel.! Moot point methinks.

So come on fellow Sladists, up and at them, don't let my morose postings put you off, let's here your soundings crap, godawful, or brill, or wtf! or just stonking feckin marvellous messages.

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Postby Judy » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:50 pm

Well guys . . . I never intended to open this can of worms :shock: but in my preparation for reading "Crucified" I rented the PBS series on the Inquisition that I had mentioned earlier . . . and I must say that I have learned more than I ever wished to know. And that has spurred an even greater desire to know more so I have a few other books about that time on hold from my public library.

The rather shocking part of the TV series was watching the representative from the Catholic church trying to explain just exactly how the Church could EVER justify the committing of murder (my words) . . . one scene based on records released from the church archives depicted putting a person in a vat of boiling oil, tar and I think turpentine so he would confess his sins before dying and supposedly would then be released of his physical body so his soul would be saved. He lasted for 15 minutes before he died.

You should really try to get a copy of this DVD to give you a true picture of the way some religious beliefs have used the concept of GOD to justify the most horrendous acts against mankind. GOD must have turned a blind eye long ago when viewing what humanity has done to itself in his/it's/her name.

I personally never subscribed to the concept of original sin . . . and believe that the story of the garden of Eden signifies mankind's desire to be more GOD-like . . . and have control over it's own dominion. And as such GOD granted mankind the freedom of choice . . . and with that freedom accepting the consequences of those choices. Personal freedom was the greatest gift. And I feel that our greatest gift in return is what we do with that freedom . . . unfortunately many times we make exceedingly poor choices . . . but the hopeful part is that we learn from those decisions and have the chance to make better ones in the future.

Well, I'm stepping down off of my soapbox once again . . . sorry to natter on . . . but I felt I should explain how reading Slade's lastest has provoked such a desire to know more. :( :shock: :roll:
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Just past the finish line... a close last....

Postby The Doctor » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:06 pm

Deja Vu or Da Vinci?

A very good force of combined historical, factoral and even a mild spattering of humour towards the end. Not the usual who-is-it doing it scenario.

With however the same pace, the typical book that races away and takes you along for the ride, but even though it's a great read and you want to get to the end, finishing the book will cause disappointment because you have to wait for the next installment! Boy, one day I promise I will re-read all these books, but I'd love to have a brain eraser so I didn't know the end already!! Maybe when I get alzheimers towards my old age that'll be my cure!

I'm not at all sure Rook was a formidable character or necessary player in the story, he came across more as the guy telling us the story. A reader or watcher himself. A character with a lot of knowledge, certainly not a hero because he came across in many instances as a coward.

The most important news to tell is how Slade can produce a book without a Mountie to be seen! Almost took me back to the days of Ghoul! (I know there was a mild reference in this book)Though it appears that research into the countryside on the British Isles may have been that Slade stepped foot on our island for real and told the Legion of British fans nowt about his visit! Alas, I'm sure the next novel will be far, far away! But if you had landed, you could have stopped by for a cup of tea!!

Crucified (the Book) now sits proud alongside the other 12 Slade books in yearly order and the space beside them already beckons...

Keep up the good work!
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Postby Slade » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:52 pm

Doc,

I'm pleased you enjoyed it. The 100th anniversary of Ian Fleming's birth has me delving back into James Bond, rereading the books I haven't read since I was in my teens, and watching the spiffy new digital versions of the first three movies to decide once and for all, in my mature opinion, which is the best.

FROM RUSSIA, WITH LOVE is not only the best Bond novel, but probably the best movie, too. However, my vote must go to DR. NO, because Bond was never that tough again until CASINO ROYALE, and that's the movie where Terence Young visually created the character out of himself that has captured the imagination of the public for 46 years.

So what does this have to do with your review above?

If you watch the scene in which Bond crushes the tarantula with his shoe, you'll note that he then goes into the bathroom to throw up. Young had to fight to keep that in the movie, because the producers feared that would weaken Bond. Later, when he and Honey are captive in Dr. No's HQ, she comments on his hand being sweaty and asks if he's afraid.

His answer, "Of course."

That's the reaction to danger of Britain's most highly trained - and mission proven - double oh agent. Heroism comes from developing the ability to overcome fear. Would Rook be more believable as a human being if he were a can-do soldier of fortune right from the first time we encounter him in a novel?

Or is it more satisfying to watch him toughen as the challenges he takes on in the future take their toll?

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Postby The Doctor » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:45 am

I'm glad that I crafted my words in my previous profile to extract this information.
Without fail, you have truly written a book from all dimensions, including the true grit of an original character.
Any chance of that book being out 2009? January maybe?
Only joking, your research into these works is astounding and must take a tremendous amount of time.
Thanks again for the signing of the latest book also!
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