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Postby steelclaw32 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:10 am

many many thanks Jay, for your more than informative info.
I have to admit I was unaware totally of "The British version was actually an adaptation of an American song called "Ten Little Indians," published in 1868. So Christie had little choice in the matter if she wished to use the British lyrics in her plot, which she did, since they appear in chapter 2." and also even more informative " When the American edition of Christie's novel came out from Dodd, Mead in 1940, they knew the original title could be construed as racially offensive, even though it was taken directly from the British song. That's why the book appeared as AND THEN THERE WERE NONE, while other U.S. editions called it TEN LITTLE INDIANS and THE NURSERY RHYME MURDERS. "

Now this too was interesting as it was, and again informative.

:"Also, your concern about the survivors in the movie is misplaced. There are two different endings to the songs, and while the British one says, "He went and hanged himself and then there were none," the American version is, "One little Injun livin' all alone/He got married and then there were none." So when Christie adapted her book for the stage in 1943, she chose the "happier" ending. " Now That
I didn't know and would love have loved to seen, My reflections was based on the B&W and the Barry Fitzgerald (Date of birth 10 March 1888 Dublin, Ireland -Date of death 14 January 1961).




and a version from 1965


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IT goes to show doesn't it that every adaptation of a book always ends more a less as its forerunner, where in the origional as always, the book !! no one survived at all . It was truly Christie's most chilliest.

For anyone who's not read it BE WARNED it's not your normal Christie's
'cheerful' romp IT IS deadly.

"What it all boils down to for me is this: I bristle at the revision of history. In our politically correct times, a sensitivity to certain issues is the moral norm. But that does not mean we go back in time and tut-tut over what came out of a different mindset. I want to know what people thought THEN, not what people now think they ought to have thought."

HEAR HEAR on that Jay damn right politically correctness has gone
completely and totally haywire, if not down right too dangerous.

Rewriting is in it self where history and other things, that HAPPEND, is
repugnant . And it's disturbing that American's their "entertainment"

industry does JUST that, and as a whole the average American believes what it sees. which doesn't bode well. As we in the real world know too well. Don't get me on about that movie set in WW11 and THAT
decodeing thing and the yanks "cracked" it when they did no such thing!.

Next thing we'll find out Christ was REALLY White Anglo-Saxon AND American !. Oh bloody Hell!!!!
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Postby steelclaw32 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:17 pm

OK check these two out lads.





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Postby Slade » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:45 pm

Steelclaw,

The Carr bio is an informative one. I love the story about him putting one over on his publisher. If you look at what makes a Slade novel a Slade novel, and then look at the elements that John Dickson Carr combines, you can see that without his grand influence in Slade's teens, the Slade we have today wouldn't be the Slade who brings you to the Board.

Here's to John Dickson Carr.

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Postby MarylandManson » Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:31 pm

Interesting that the Carr bio in steelclaw's link ends with a brief Dorothy Sayers quote, the full version of which appears on the back of HAG'S NOOK (Collier Mystery Classics with an Introduction by Anthony Boucher). Here's the whole thing:

"Mr. Carr can lead us away from the small, artificial, brightly lit stage of the ordinary detective plot into the menace of outer darkness. He can create atmosphere with an adjective. He can alarm with an illusion or delight with a rollicking absurdity. He can invent a passage from a lost work of Edgar Allan Poe and make it sound like the real thing. In short, he can write--in the sense that every sentence gives a thrill of positive pleasure."

-Dorothy Sayers

I have to confess, this whole journey into mystery is popping like fireworks in my head. I'm rereading THE THREE COFFINS and HAG'S NOOK, finding more and more to like, and appreciating the Slade oeuvre even more.

Thank you, Slade, for illuminating this literary realm! MM

P.S. In case it's not clear, I'm slightly enthusiastic about all this.
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Postby steelclaw32 » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:09 am

:lol: :lol: I'll drink to that must go to Bolens and see if they've got the three coffins etc . Cheers :mrgreen:
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